Adrian Rurawhe, a Labour MP and former Speaker, says there are no winners in this debate.
Parties may think they are winning by speaking to the people that support them, but there are no winners, "none, especially not this House," Rurawhe says.
He says the Privileges Committee is a committee of Parliament and not of the Government.
"It is demonstrably clear to me that it is the Government that is punishing the Members today, not the Parliament," he says.
If it was Parliament, there would be bipartisan support, he suggests.
It is a "dangerous precedent" not to have that bipartisan support from the Privileges Committee.
Governments of the future will feel very free to use the Privileges Committee penalties to punish their opponents if this goes forward, he says.
Rurawhe implores Te Pāti Māori to think about how it may go a long way to apologise and to think about their long term strategy.
Rurawhe says both Te Pati Maori and National needs to change their positions on the Privileges Committee recommendations.
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